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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/2/2014 11:41 PM

Just wondering what your opinions are on the BSD Raider frame. I'm In the market for a new frame and I'm interested in this along with the volume vessel. Thanks

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huntsforbunz huntsforbunz
8/2/2014 11:53 PM

id go bsd great team never heard anything bad about the products

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bmxsteve99 bmxsteve99
8/3/2014 12:20 AM

both are good

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HardBMX_Tim HardBMX_Tim
8/3/2014 1:25 PM

After I broke my 1month old Bone Deth Creepozoid I bought one of these. Snapped both dropouts off completely 3 weeks later.




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Xxohioanxx Xxohioanxx
8/3/2014 1:35 PM

They're SOLID Dude Brosef!!! The Specs Seem Perfect So The Frame Must Be Unbreakable! Plus I Talked To David Grant On FaceFuck A Few Times And He's A Real Standup Guy!! But Have You Seen The New Shadow Cranks? I've Got Some And They're Definitely The Best Cranks Ever, Even Though I Haven't Ridden Them Yet. Shadow Has Really Stepped Their Game Up! They're Going On My New Bike, You'll Have To Wait To See That! Empire Is Hooking Me Up For This New Build M8!! Shout Out To Adam22!!!

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tomdon tomdon
8/3/2014 1:36 PM
Xxohioanxx wrote:

They're SOLID Dude ...more

+1

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realityisajoke realityisajoke
8/3/2014 2:59 PM

I actually have one, in 20.7". It's solid, standover in the short length takes some getting used to tho. I'm sure if you got it in a longer size it would feel more natural. As long as you don't weigh 3,000 pounds it will hold up like most frames. Also, the taller standover means stronger triangles, stronger frame. All my frames and my buddies frames break right at the seattube - top tube junction, taller standover means this is much less likely.
Every frame is about geo really tho, figure out what you like and go from there.

edit: only other complaint was the trans black paint chipped at the dropouts and on the edge of the bottom bracket extremely easily, but I've heard that's pretty normal for trans paint.


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bmxsteve99 bmxsteve99
8/3/2014 3:09 PM
realityisajoke wrote:

I actually have one, in ...more

ooooooh burn

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 3:22 PM
Xxohioanxx wrote:

They're SOLID Dude ...more

U made my head hurt but ok haha

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 3:24 PM
realityisajoke wrote:

I actually have one, in ...more

Alright cool thanks dude. I really appreciate hearing from somebody who actually has it ahah. I dint have a lot of money so I just want to make sure I et soemthing that lasts. How about the vessel? Looks pretty strong and similar geo

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realityisajoke realityisajoke
8/3/2014 3:32 PM
Gabesteeze wrote:

Alright cool thanks dude. ...more

Never ridden the vessel so i won't pretend to know about it, haha. only volume frame I've ridden is my buddy's drifter v2, which is holding up perfectly for him, but he doesn't ride very hard at all. The vessel also has a high standover, so it could be assumed that it might be like the BSD in terms of strength. Very similar frames, biggest differences i'd say would be the longer back end of the Raider, and the fact that the vessel comes with the option to use brakes, gyro, and chain tensioner, whereas the raider has no brake/gyro mounts and no tensioner.


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hmuifulikefriedchicken hmuifulikefriedchicken
8/3/2014 4:19 PM
HardBMX_Tim wrote:

After I broke my 1month ...more

pics or youre full of shit

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Xxohioanxx Xxohioanxx
8/3/2014 4:32 PM
Gabesteeze wrote:

U made my head hurt but ok ...more

It was a joke, haha, don't worry about it. In reality I really like how the frame look but have never ridden it so I can't say for sure.

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 4:56 PM
Xxohioanxx wrote:

They're SOLID Dude ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

U made my head hurt but ok ...more

Xxohioanxx wrote:

It was a joke, haha, don't ...more

Hahah yeah I assumed so ahah and yeah I get u

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 5:00 PM
realityisajoke wrote:

I actually have one, in ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

Alright cool thanks dude. ...more

realityisajoke wrote:

Never ridden the vessel so ...more

Yeah I'm 15 and 6ft and still goring and with long legs and lanky haha. So I'm looking for a high stand over with a shortish back end. I have a morrow frame right now an the low stand over and long ass back end are killing me. It's also 20.75 and my knees r bunched up on it so I wanted a 21. Also the simple look of the raider is dope but I like the tensioners and hour glass head tube on the vessel not to mention the sick colors as well

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 5:01 PM

And it's cracked lol

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realityisajoke realityisajoke
8/3/2014 5:17 PM
Gabesteeze wrote:

And it's cracked lol

Then it sounds like you know what you want. raider is solid, and I assume the vessel is too. All down to colours, geo, and features now haha


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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 5:22 PM

Yeah haha I just hate decisions liek this tho lol! I do a lot of bars and grinds and flowing around skateparks so I'm sure they would both be fine haha! The raider in trams black with grey donnasquecks would be dope!

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/3/2014 9:54 PM
Gabesteeze wrote:

And it's cracked lol

realityisajoke wrote:

Then it sounds like you ...more

When u had the raider how'd it do with dentshahaa

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whocares whocares
8/4/2014 9:19 AM

I have the Volume Vessel frame with Grey Donnasqueaks. I love it so far. Then again, I'm not what you consider a hard rider and such. Just an older dude who cruises around with his kids. I just jump things here and there and manual what not. I've been too lazy to do a bike check but I'll get to it one of these days.

I actually have the BSD Raider frame in Raw boxed up. Never got around to building it up because I wanted to try this Vessel frame out and wanted to run brakes for a bit (The Raider frame has no brake mounts)

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Collin_McClenahan Collin_McClenahan
8/4/2014 9:40 AM
Gabesteeze wrote:

Alright cool thanks dude. ...more

realityisajoke wrote:

Never ridden the vessel so ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

Yeah I'm 15 and 6ft and ...more

If you're still growing you may want to get the 21.6" I know the struggle of being way too tall dude, I'm 17, 6'6 and still going.

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realityisajoke realityisajoke
8/4/2014 9:40 AM
Gabesteeze wrote:

When u had the raider ...more

It's been fine for dents. Like i said the trans paint is quite fragile, but i could care less, it's to be expected, I just put a sticker over a scratch if it looks that bad. But the frame itself has (surprisingly) zero dents except one under the chainstay, but for some reason i ruin the chainstays on literally every frame i ride, so that's nothing unusual. I wrapped an old inner tube around the chainstay and it's fine now.


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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/4/2014 11:47 AM
realityisajoke wrote:

Never ridden the vessel so ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

Yeah I'm 15 and 6ft and ...more

Collin_McClenahan wrote:

If you're still growing ...more

Yeah seriously! Haha idk cuz the time in between I don't want to have a really long frame haha.

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/4/2014 11:49 AM
realityisajoke wrote:

Then it sounds like you ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

When u had the raider ...more

realityisajoke wrote:

It's been fine for dents. ...more

Alright cool I tend to destroy my down tube on all my frames from all my grinds ahah. Do u know if there is any warranty on the frame?

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/4/2014 11:50 AM
whocares wrote:

I have the Volume Vessel ...more

Yeah that looks so sick! I like the features on the vessel like the hour glass head tube and chain tensioners. But then again I love the raiders simple design and no brake mounts

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realityisajoke realityisajoke
8/4/2014 1:11 PM
Gabesteeze wrote:

Alright cool I tend to ...more

Never had a problem with denting the down tube on my frames, although I did learn crankarm grinds with this frame and it's been fine.
BSD is supposed to have a 1 year warranty on all their products.
I do remember someone on this forum that had an issue with BSD not getting back to them about something that broke tho. Then again, I saw someone else on here that had an issue with their BSD hub and BSD was more than up front about it. So I don't know what to tell you in that respect.


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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/4/2014 1:16 PM
realityisajoke wrote:

It's been fine for dents. ...more

Gabesteeze wrote:

Alright cool I tend to ...more

realityisajoke wrote:

Never had a problem with ...more

Oh alright cool thanks. I think I'm going to save up the test of the money I need and swoop it!

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Gabesteeze Gabesteeze
8/4/2014 1:18 PM

Last question was it pretty responsive?

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ticaleb ticaleb
8/4/2014 2:26 PM

since you already know that the morrow frame is too long, then you don't need your frame to go to 13.9" on the chainstay, so maybe get the vessel since it is long enough with more room to go shorter if you take out chain links.

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Brayden_Buckingham Brayden_Buckingham
8/4/2014 11:59 PM

A local has a Beverage and he snaps hubguards like fucking plates , he goes tech as shit and he likes it more than his WZA he had. Least to say BSD is good.

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